Sunday, January 27, 2013
Friday, January 18, 2013
Jim Staley Identity Crisis pt.4 "The Common Myths of the Bible"-- "VS" patrick j miron singular deception of truth
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First of all we need to understand the common myths. One of the most popular myths is that the Jewish people were the chosen people in the Old Testament.
A lot of people grew up believing that like I did and even taught that to others. But this is what I used to teach that the Jewish people were the chosen people and it was always uncomfortable for me because I did not quite understand when I say the chosen people, what did that mean?
The term "chosen people", are they still chosen people today? And how did that all fit in?
And what if they don't believe in Jesus? But the Jewish people are chosen, or if we ever just ignore that subject in church. We don't want to touch that with a ten foot pole, we are going to touch that one in this article.
Another common myth is that the Torah and the Law was given to the Jews. That is another belief that will drastically change how you read your bible. These myths are being promoted by the enemy for almost 2000 years.
Another one is that the Passover that Jesus kept along with the other Feast Days of the bible that the disciples kept were "Jewish" Feast Days which include the Sabbath Day.
This is the number one thing that people will tell me when I say "hey man, I love the feast days, I have been keeping them for a few years now, they revolutionized my family's life, I don't even know how I existed without them, and they are that unbelievable, they are all about the Messiah."
They say, you are keeping those, those are Jewish Holidays. I know you also heard that at least once in your lifetime. They are Jewish Holidays right. Well, true or not true, we are going to find out in this article.
So let me ask you a question that is on the heels of this question,
"How many tribes were at the base of Mt. Sinai when the commandments were given? "
All 12 Tribes! Next question logical to be asked is how many were Jewish? One tribe! One tribe was Jewish which begs the question, where are the other ones? If they were given to all of Israel, all the 12 tribes, then they can't possibly be Jewish or that is just not fair.
The Jewish people cannot own the holidays because they are just one tribe. Here are all the tribes that are out here: Asher, Issachar, Simeon, Levi, Gad, Reuben, Judah, and Joseph.
First of all we need to understand the common myths. One of the most popular myths is that the Jewish people were the chosen people in the Old Testament.
A lot of people grew up believing that like I did and even taught that to others. But this is what I used to teach that the Jewish people were the chosen people and it was always uncomfortable for me because I did not quite understand when I say the chosen people, what did that mean?
The term "chosen people", are they still chosen people today? And how did that all fit in?
And what if they don't believe in Jesus? But the Jewish people are chosen, or if we ever just ignore that subject in church. We don't want to touch that with a ten foot pole, we are going to touch that one in this article.
Another common myth is that the Torah and the Law was given to the Jews. That is another belief that will drastically change how you read your bible. These myths are being promoted by the enemy for almost 2000 years.
Another one is that the Passover that Jesus kept along with the other Feast Days of the bible that the disciples kept were "Jewish" Feast Days which include the Sabbath Day.
This is the number one thing that people will tell me when I say "hey man, I love the feast days, I have been keeping them for a few years now, they revolutionized my family's life, I don't even know how I existed without them, and they are that unbelievable, they are all about the Messiah."
They say, you are keeping those, those are Jewish Holidays. I know you also heard that at least once in your lifetime. They are Jewish Holidays right. Well, true or not true, we are going to find out in this article.
So let me ask you a question that is on the heels of this question,
"How many tribes were at the base of Mt. Sinai when the commandments were given? "
All 12 Tribes! Next question logical to be asked is how many were Jewish? One tribe! One tribe was Jewish which begs the question, where are the other ones? If they were given to all of Israel, all the 12 tribes, then they can't possibly be Jewish or that is just not fair.
The Jewish people cannot own the holidays because they are just one tribe. Here are all the tribes that are out here: Asher, Issachar, Simeon, Levi, Gad, Reuben, Judah, and Joseph.
Saturday, January 12, 2013
Monday, January 7, 2013
Jeff Dunham Walter Funniest joke--- patrick j miron --ALL prophecy of scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, My interpretation
Protestant Theology & Catholic Doctrines
Exposed to cover & discover the “Naked Truth“... Catholic responses to the Booklet: “Answers to my Catholic Friends” by Thomas F. Heinze … Part 5b
A Catholic reply to Protestant “[mis]- Understandings” Part 5b
My interpretation
DEVIDED INTO 3 SEPARATE LESSONS
A friendly word of caution to our non-Catholic friends
2Cor.11:13 to 15 “For such men are false apostles, [NOTE: There can logically only be One Truth per precise issue. What are the odds that the truth didn’t happen for 1, 500 YEARS after the Bible had been written?] deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is not strange if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. [Perhaps unknowingly] Their end will correspond to their deeds.”
The Bible never infers that that any saints, living or dead, sympathize with us more than God does. … This is a irrelevant observation. Paul speaks directly to and about those he understands are doing all that is required to become saints. He praises there example and ask others to emulate them. Catholics do not so much prayer to Saints [as THROUGH them to God], NOT because they are more sympathetic than God; No, we Catholics pray THROUGH them because
they STAND IN THE VERY PRESENCE OF GOD, My interpretation
and then add to our prayers, there own on our behalf.] My interpretation
Heb. 12: 1 “Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, [SAINTS in heaven] let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with perseverance the race that is set before us, looking to Jesus the pioneer and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God.”
Tob.12: 15 “I am Raphael, one of the seven holy [Arch] angels [Saints and Angels are considered here to be of similar class] who present the prayers of the saints and enter into the presence of the glory of the Holy One."
2 Tim. 1: 16-18 Paul Prays for the dead: 16 May the Lord grant mercy to the household of Onesiphorus, for he often refreshed me; he was not ashamed of my chains, but when he arrived in Rome he searched for me eagerly and found me-- may the Lord grant him to find mercy from the Lord on that Day--and you well know all the service he rendered at Ephesus.”
1Mac.12:11 “We therefore remember you constantly on every occasion, both in our feasts and on other appropriate days, at the sacrifices which we offer and in our prayers, as it is right and proper to remember brethren”
Christ Himself tells us to whom we should pray.
Matt.7:7-8 “Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.
Do Protestants Believe in the Saints ? Yes BUT, not the same understanding of the term as Catholics have.
WHY don’t Protestants pray to saints? … Because the bible tells us not too [“because they are idols.”]
“To answer the Catholic argument that “saints do answer prayers” with miracles, we must respond that spiritual manifestations [including miracles] can come from two different places: God, or the Devil and his demons.” …
THIS FRIENDS IS A SPIRITUAL IMPOSSIBILITY.
My interpretation
JUST AS GOD CANNOT CAUSE EVIL DIRECTLY; My interpretation
SATAN IS LIMITED BY GOD IN WHAT HE CAN accomplish IN GOD’S NAME. My interpretation
"And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as the LORD had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a serpent. Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments. For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods." —Exodus 7:10-12
While Satan can cause UNNATURAL phenomenon to happen; he cannot cause good to happen in order to deceive those who are and strive to be good.; which is the point missed by our Brother Thomas … God’s Saints always and every time who have miracles performed THROUGH THEM BY GOD, always and every time do so for a good. This follows the example set by Christ Himself while He was on earth.
Matt. 10: 1-8 “And he called to him his twelve disciples and gave them authority over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal every disease and every infirmity. The names of the twelve apostles are these: first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zeb'edee, and John his brother; Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James the son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus; Simon the Cananaean, and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him. These twelve Jesus sent out, charging them, "Go nowhere among the Gentiles, and enter no town of the Samaritans, but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And preach as you go, saying, `The kingdom of heaven is at hand.' Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying, give without pay.”
These same powers and authority granted to the Apostles continue to flow through His one Church in order to fulfill God’s mandate to “teach the whole world” Mt. 28:19-20. …John 17: 18-19 “As thou didst send me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. [WITH MY GODLY POWERS AND AUTHORITY] And for their sake I consecrate myself, that they also may be consecrated in truth”
We shall begin our Catholic Response; exposing “The NAKED TRUTH”. God and truth are on the side of the only set of Faith beliefs found in the New Covenant ; for the newly “Chosen People” of His one and only Catholic Church, with His One and only One, set of faith beliefs.
FACTS:
1. Only Peter and the CC through him have been GRANTED the “keys” My interpretation
[ALL THAT IS NECESSARY for one’s own salvation] MY interpretation
by Jesus Himself in person…Matt. 16:15-19
2. The term “church” was first introduced by Jesus Himself in Matt. 16:18 “And I [Jesus] tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church,”MY interpretation
[SINGULAR]
3. Therefore it is a FACT that every reference to “church and churches” contained in the Bible, must and Do reference ONLY to today’s Catholic Church. The ONLY “church” in the entire world when the bible was completely written. My interpretation
4. No where in the entire Bible, either explicitly or implicitly did God EVER approve of ANY set of teachings, or ANY “other church or Faith” other than the RCC My interpretation[and the 23 branches aligned with Her]
5. Therefore what Thomas and protestant denominations seem to have done is violate the very code of the Bible,
by denial of God’s actual and real teaching, My interpretation
or simply not understanding them, and proliferate “faiths” designed by mortal men, My interpretation
based on convenience, ease of worship, and ONLY human-logic; who it appears think that they know more; or know better than Jesus Christ Himself. My interpretation
The ONLY set of faith beliefs actually given by God, Inspired by God, Protected by God and warranted by Jesus Himself. My interpretation
Mt. 16:15-19; Mt. 28:16-20; John 14:16-17; John 17:15-19; and John 20:19-22... And in John 15 and 19 Jesus specifically transfers His Power and His Authority to His CC; and never; ever to anyone else can this be said of. “As the Father has sent ME; so to I God send YOU!”
“My Catholic] Church“. My interpretation
6. For more than ONE THOUSAND YEARS the only Christian-“church” that existed was today’s Catholic Church.
7. The NT alone provides more than One HUNDRED proofs of Only One God; Only His One set of beliefs, in and through His only One Catholic Church.MY interpretation
My interpretation
And YES, I can provide the list.MY interpretation
John.10: 16 “And I have other sheep, that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will heed my voice. So there shall be one flock, one shepherd”
Eph. 4: 1-7 “I therefore, a prisoner for the Lord, beg you to lead a life worthy of the calling to which you have been called, with all lowliness and meekness, with patience, forbearing one another in love, eager to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call, one Lord
, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father if you are baptised with the holy spirit in a atholic church
MY interpretation
of us all, who is above all and through all and in all. But grace was given to each of us according to the measure of Christ's gift.”
Eph. 2:19-20 “So then you are no longer strangers and sojourners, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, [SINGULAR] built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, in whom the whole structure is joined together and grows into a holy temple in the Lord;
[SINGULAR]
My interpretation
in whom you also are built into it for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.”
Eph. 3: 9-10 “And to make all men see what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages in God who created all things; that through the church My interpretation
[SINGULAR] the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places.
This was according to the eternal purpose which he has realized in Christ Jesus our Lord, My interpretation
So my friends how are we to respond to this level of misunderstandings? There can be and there is only one singular truth. God and logic permits only one truth per issue. With God’s assistance with we shall present it with charity, and clarity, these truths as taught By Christ Himself and allow you to decide who shares the singular truth. We’ll tackle this task by topic, so that one can gain a right [fully supported by the Bible], understanding of the Catholic Position; which is defacto: GOD”S ONLY POSITION.
OUR FIRST TOPIC to be explained correctly and defended WILL BE THE COMMANDMENTS
My interpretation
Let’s compare The [Catholic] Douay Rheims version of Exodus chapter 20, to that of the [Protestant] King James Bible, and see how they differ, and see if we can explain any differences.
The first Entire Bible [in a single language] was the Latin Vulgate, translated from Greek, Aramaic, and Latin around the year 350 AD by the Catholic, St. Jerome, into the first complete bible in a single Latin language, and the Church called it ’the Latin Vulgate”, copies of which can still be found today. The reason for Latin was because it was the official language of the then, “world-wide” Roman Empire, led by Constantine, so the common language of the world became “Latin.“ Quite naturally the RCC too accepted “Latin” as there own “common language.
The Douay Rheims [the first Catholic “common English-language bible“] and the Vulgate were the Bibles Luther used to “create” his own version of a Christian bible. And it in addition to making many textual changes to support his new beliefs , eliminated seven bible books. “The books now known as the Apocrypha are also called the deuterocanonical books Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Sirach, Baruch, 1 & 2 Maccabees. The Catholic bible also include chapters in the books of Esther and Daniel not found in the Protestant Bibles. Some have claimed that we Catholics added them but they have always been in the Bible.”
The logical question of course is If the Bible is the “Inspired Words of God“; [2nd. Tim. 3:16] WHY WHERE THEY REMOVED AFTER 1,500 years in the Bible?
MY interpretation
In reaction to the Protestant Revolution, Led by Luther, and soon joined by John Calvin, Wycliffe and others, who were preparing there “own modified bible version into their own common language [language of the people]” from the once Catholic “Only” Bible, caused the Church to publish its own Catholic Version, also in “common language,” so as to prevent, or at least not make it necessary for the “flock of Christ” to turn to the Protestant Bibles, in search of biblical knowledge, which would naturally lead to errors of faith..
King Henry the Eighth separated from the RCC around 1200 AD, and had his own version of the Anglican Bible, but it never really caught on outside of the Realm of England, as this was before the invention of the printing press. His “State” religion was really only practiced in England where it was forced on the populace.
Prior to this the RCC did not want people to be reading the bible by themselves, fearing that it was too easy to error in self-interpretation. That fear has been factually- validated, and continues to exist today, and has led to and is the cause of the MANY THOUSANDS of Protestant denominations; My interpretation
each with there own understanding of what the bible actually means. Obviously these cannot be true or correct , nor are they God’s Inspired and Holy Spirit directed Understandings. As supported by Biblical evidence,
the RCC is the only fully authorized by God, guided, and fully-God-protected source for a proper translation, because that was and remains God’s Plan. My interpretation
[Mt/ 16:18-19; Mt. 28:19-20]
The Catholic Church probations against individual reading of the bible begin because of the lack of literacy within the ranks of lay-folk within the early church’s formation.
My interpretation
But even after the “Age of Enlightenment,” the prohibitions were continued; but now on the grounds that one who was not specifically trained in the Art of Bible study [Exegesis] could easily do more harm to their Spiritual life, than possible good. Why did the Fathers support this opinion?
Eph.3: 9 to 12 “And to make all men see what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages in God who created all things; that through the church
[SINGULAR: meaning MY interpretation which is
THE CATHOLIC Church;
the ONLY “church“ when the Bible was FULLY written] MY interpretation
the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places. This was according to the eternal purpose which he has realized in Christ Jesus our Lord, in whom we have boldness and confidence of access through our faith in him”
Matt.13:9-12 “He who has ears, let him hear." Then the disciples came and said to him, "Why do you speak to them in parables?" And he answered them,
"To you [My church] it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven,
but to them it has not been given.”
For to him who has will more be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who has not, even what he has will be taken away. “
2nd. Peter 3: 14-17 “Therefore, beloved, since you wait for these, be zealous to be found by him without spot or blemish, and at peace. And count the forbearance of our Lord as salvation. So also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, speaking of this as he does in all his letters.
There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, beware lest you be carried away with the error of lawless men and lose your own stability” My interpretation
John 5: 37 “And the Father who sent me has himself borne witness to me. His voice you have never heard, his form you have never seen; and you do not have his word abiding in you, for you do not believe him whom he has sent.
You search the scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness to me; yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life [Speaking of accepting the entire WORD of GOD]. I do not receive glory from men .
[Meaning disobedience is rampant!] My interpretation
But I know that you have not the love of God within you. I have come in my Father's name, and you do not receive me” [Listen to me or Obey Me!]
2nd. Peter 1: 16-21 “You will do well to pay attention to this as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.
First of all you must understand this, that ALL--(none by U)
ALL prophecy of scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation,
because no prophecy ever came by the impulse of man, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.”
1Cor2: 6-7 “Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory”
1Tim.3: 15 “if I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, [SINGULAR] My interpretation
which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth“.
[All SINGULAR] My interpretation
The Catholic Church.
2 Thess. 1: 8 inflicting vengeance upon those who do not know God and upon those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They shall suffer the punishment of eternal destruction and exclusion from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might
Now back to our Commandments and the differences between what we Catholic accept and what Protestants are being force-fed to believe. Having READ both Exodus, chapter 20, and the book of Deuteronomy, chapter 5, I cannot get past the significant fact;
My interpretation
that in its teaching and message BOTH versions TEACH the same Doctrines in BOTH the Protestant KJ version and in the Catholic bibles. Emphasis, not substance is the difference.
The Protestant position claims that
Catholic’s “ARE FACTUALLY Idolaters”
… Is founded on a serious lack of understanding that Catholics prayers to Mary and the Saints ARE meant for them alone. Such is NOT THE TRUTH! Our prayers still ascend to GOD,
My interpretation but through Mary and the Saints as intercessors, which according to the understanding of Thomas makes this practice “idolatry.”
This practice is NO MORE idolatrous than pictures of Luther, Wesley, Smith, Calvin or others. And yes even though they are not prayed “to” neither do our Prayer intensions end with Mary and the saints.
My interpretation
The GOAL and the end of our Prayers is Jesus Christ Himself. They pass-through; FROM Mary and the Saints to Jesus.
My interpretation
And here is how we know that God, and the Bible do not prohibit such forms of practice.
The REAL issue is in the understanding of just what actually takes place; why it happens this way, and what praying to and through Mary or the Saints actually accomplishes. “Idolatry” by dictionary definition requires INTENT to divert; reverence, glory or Worship away from God and to someone / something else.
THAT IS NOT THE motive or INTENT OF INFORMED AND FULLY PRACTICING CATHOLICS.
My interpretation
C
Can or does it ever take place? Sure; with over one billion Catholics in the world; there are going to be some who do not correctly understand and practice our faith, fully or properly, as both God and the Magesterium desire, and as is taught by the church.
Here are TWO Biblical examples of YAHWEH God commanding Moses to make “holy images,” for the express purpose of WORSHIPING THEM.
WORSHIP defined: 1 : to honor or reverence as a divine being or supernatural power 2 : to regard with great or extravagant respect, honor, or devotion <a celebrity worshipped by her fans>
George Carlin Philosophy - Religion & Consumerism (Part 2)--patrick j miron -God imposed penalty for NOT doing what He say’s
Patrick j miron doctrune--This “hidden messages” is God’s way of formulating a particular cross for non-Catholics to carry. -- this burden is imposed to make clear His displeasure with what is going on,
Having identified the underlying cause of the problem as an apparent inability to consistently understand correctly and fully, the Written Words of God,
I am now obligated to explain just why it happens.
The underlying cause is a God imposed penalty for NOT doing what He say’s
and NOT fully following ALL of His teachings, as will be clearly demonstrated.
Exactly how God accomplishes this remains a mystery
to everyone
. The fact that He is behind it, is not.
I suspect it is accomplished by withholding Devine guidance, as is His Right. There is evidence of an unintentional selective application of passages elected and chosen to solidify the positions expressed by Brother Heinze, that I have seen quite often by his contemporaries.
At first I thought it might be intentional;
but have come to understand that it is God who limits their understanding;
making it still possible, but far more difficult for them to uncover and discover God’s Fullness of Truth.
It’s a battle between Pride and Humility; Good and Evil; Partial truths and the Fullness of Gods Own Truth.
Rom.9: 18 “What then are we to say? Is there injustice on the part of God? Of course not! For he says to Moses: "I will show mercy to whom I will, I will take pity on whom I will." So it depends not upon a person's will or exertion, but upon God, who shows mercy. “
Heb. 3 12 “Take care, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God. But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called "today," that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. For we share in Christ, if only we hold our first confidence firm to the end, while it is said, "Today, when you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion."
Rom. 9:15 “For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."
Mt. 11: 25-26 “At that time Jesus declared, "I thank thee, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to babes;
yea, Father, for such was thy gracious will. All things have been delivered to me by my Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father,
and no one knows the Father except the Son and any one to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.”
This “hidden messages” is God’s way of formulating a particular cross for non-Catholics to carry.
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Because God can ONLY be a “Good and Fair” God
[anything less would deny His Divinity],
this burden is imposed to make clear His displeasure with what is going on, and
the fact that never once in the entire Bible, did or has God permitted a belief in more than one God [Triune], or more than
Only One set of Faith-beliefs, or ever guide, guard and protect more than one “church” [or one chosen people.] This FACT alone ought to put everyone on the “same page.”
That friends sets us up for the discussion of the positions expressed so kindly by Mr. Thomas Heinze.
I will first share his views and evidences, and then provide our Catholic response to them.
The first topic selected by Mr. Heinze, is the Catholic Mass.
“Answers to my Catholic Friends” by Thomas F. Heinze
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