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Whataya Want From Me : Adam Lambert : Lyrics!Here’s a brief Catholic Explanation of God’s own Commanded process of Salvation

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Here’s a brief Catholic Explanation of God’s own Commanded process of Salvation

Please take note of the fact that I am using the Bible as supporting evidence of the Catholic Position.

 “Bible church Protestants” swear it is the ONLY reliable and solid evidence for learning RIGHT Faith beliefs and so we shall use it to support ALL of our Catholic teachings and beliefs.  





This is not intended as a complete teaching on this subject; rather it’s aim is to  point out major differences in our basic-Faith- beliefs. In What Christ taught; the bibles say’s and what Protestant CHOOSE to believe.

It is a completely correct theological understanding that humanity by themselves, cannot “earn” their salvation.


 It is equally true that God, in a mystery only He can understand does require humanity to MERIT sufficient graces to attain our own salvation.


 The FACT that God demands our freewill- co-operation as a condition of our salvation is a mystery only He can unravel. Our freewill correctly used and applied must correspond with specific conditions; conditions that God Himself ordains.


 This  predicated fact is fully supported by the way we are Created to emulate God Himself. We are to cooperate with God’s plan; and God’s grace in able to merit [in the manner He specifies] what are the essential elements of our own personal salvation.

Of ALL created things in the Universe;

 only humanity can rationalize and choose to love.



 In order to do this requires the “God-like” attributes of a mind, intellect, and a freewill which are permanently attached to our souls; which emulate God Himself because they are Spiritual things, which cannot die or be killed. While our bodies die; this Spiritual package of gifs live on for eternity.

The man, made easy philosophy that teaches that “all that is required for ones “salvation” is to ask God to “be my personal Lord and Savior” may make one all warm and fuzzy inside. But it will not get one to heaven. 


 It will not bring of itself salvation.  


Believing that anyone can or will attain participation in Christ Glory without first sharing in Christ Passion and suffering is a naïve, foolish, even nonsensical teachings of mortal men;



 who themselves claim to know more and or know better that the God Inspired Bible.

 [2nnd. Tim 3:16] 

 Protected [John 17:15-19]  

and Guided Catholic Church.

 [John 14:16-17; fulfilled in John 20:21-22] …



These verses provide direct evidence of Christ teaching and personal commitment to the catholic Church.


 One can know this based on the fact that when these words were written; the only Church and only Christian Faith in the ENTIRE World; was today’s Catholic Church and our Faith-belief -teachings.

“Take Up your Cross and Follow Me”

Phil.2: 8 “And being found in human form he humbled himself and became obedient unto death, even death on a cross 

 Luke.9 :23 And he said to all, "If any man would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. 


 Mark.8: 34 And he called to him the multitude with his disciples, and said to them, "If any man would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me

. Luke.9: 23 And he said to all, "If any man would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me.

 Luke.14: 7


 Whoever does not bear his own cross and come after me, cannot be my disciple.” 


 ED- NOTE

This really means that who ever does not lay-down their desires and will and live for Jesus is not his deciple

 Note"most roman Catholics who are disciples - have no-idea- what it means to live out the will of God for their life's..





1Pet.5: 1, 9  “So I exhort the elders among you, as a fellow elder and a witness of the sufferings of Christ as well as a partaker in the glory that is to be revealed. Resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same experience of suffering is required of your brotherhood throughout the world.”

1Pet.4: 13 ” But rejoice in so far as you share Christ's sufferings, that you may also rejoice and be glad when his glory is revealed.

Phil.1: 29 “For it has been granted to you that for the sake of Christ you should not only believe in him but also suffer for his sake, “

2Thes.1: 5 “This is evidence of the righteous judgment of God, that you may be made worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are suffering “

Heb. 2: 10 For it was fitting that he, for whom and by whom all things exist, in bringing many sons to glory, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through suffering.

2Tim.4: 5 “As for you, always be steady, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.”

Correctly understood is the realization that MUCH of this “suffering” has to do with subjecting ones own freewill and fully comply in humble obedience to everything that Christ teaches, and to those that He Himself chose and placed in authority.

John 20:19-22 “On the evening of that day, the first day of the week, the doors being shut where the disciples were, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said to them, "Peace be with you." When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. Then the disciples were glad when they saw the Lord. Jesus said to them again, "Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you." And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit.” [THIS MEANS WITH GOD’S OWN POWERS AND GODS OWN AUTHORITY] Does God do this for you’re pastor? NO he does not.

 Matt.10: 1-8 “And he called to him his twelve disciples and gave them authority over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal every disease and every infirmity. 


The names of the twelve apostles are these:
 first, Simon, who is called Peter, and
 second--Andrew his brother; 
third--James the son of Zeb'edee, and 
fourth John his brother;
fifth Philip and 
\sixth Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James the son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus; Simon the Cananaean, and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him. 


These twelve Jesus sent out, charging them, "Go nowhere among the Gentiles, and enter no town of the Samaritans, but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And preach as you go, saying, `The kingdom of heaven is at hand.'


 [THIS WAS CHANGED TO THE ENTIRE WORLD IN MATT:28:19-20]


 Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons.



 You received without paying, give without pay. Which explains what these same powers and this same authority of God Himself still exist exclusively in Christ Own Catholic Church.

It always and every time begins by God imitative of offering GRACE; the First key element


DUH???

Rom.3: 24 “they are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus, “

If the Grace is accepted and correctly applied this leads to Faith;  DUH



 the next key element”

Rom.5:1-2 “Therefore, since we are justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have obtained access to this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in our hope of sharing the glory of God.”

Rom.1: 17 “For in it the righteousness of God is revealed through faith for faith; as it is written, "He who through faith is righteous shall live."

Next are a SERIES of Full and Complete Obedience ISSUES:

Psalms 127:1 "Unless the Lord builds the house, those who build it labor in vain. Unless the Lord watches over the city, the watchman stays awake in vain."

The Commandments: Mt.17:19  And Know my friends that the 10 Commandments are only categories of sin: not the entire list.

To the CC and the Pope and Magesterium:

2 John 8-9 Anyone who is so “progressive” as not to remain in the teaching of the Christ does not have God; whoever remains in the teaching has the Father and the Son

Acts.20: 28 

 “Take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God  


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 [“the Catholic Church” SINGULAR]  


²⁷ For I have not hesitated to proclaim to you the whole will of God. ²⁸ Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God,^[a] which he bought with his own blood.^{[b] 29} I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. ³⁰ Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. ³¹ So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears. 







which he obtained with the blood of his own Son.”

Romans 13: 2 “Therefore he who resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.”

 ED note

Paul in Ephesus

19 While Apollos was at Corinth, Paul took the road through the interior and arrived at Ephesus. There he found some disciples ² and asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when^[a] you believed?”

They answered, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.”
³ So Paul asked, “Then what baptism did you receive?”
“John’s baptism,” they replied.
⁴ Paul said, “John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the one coming after him, that is, in Jesus.” ⁵ On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. ⁶ When Paul placed his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues^[b] and prophesied. ⁷ There were about twelve men in all.



Eph. 4: 1-7 “I therefore, a prisoner for the Lord, beg you to lead a life worthy of the calling to which you have been called, with all lowliness and meekness, with patience, forbearing one another in love, eager to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.



 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call, one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of us all, who is above all and through all and in all. But grace was given to each of us according to the measure of

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Printer-friendly version of this page		Investigating heresy was the work of the medieval inquisition. But before going into the founding of the inquisition we need to ask what is meant by “heresy”? The word “heresy,” in its origins, means “choice.” Choice implies, therefore, different ways of thinking about a specific subject. The question then arises as to how acceptable different or divergent opinions are, particularly when a community is built on accepted beliefs. Not surprisingly, as Christianity developed there was concern about divergent theological opinions that might damage the Christian community. Theological opinions that were widely divergent came to be seen as destructive and were thus condemned as “heretical.” For example, in the Letter to Titus, one of three pastoral letters of Paul, the writer emphasizes the need for commonality of belief to help the new church on Crete develop appropriately: “As for yourself, you must say what is consistent with sound doctrine (2.1) … After a first and second warning, break off contact with a heretic, realizing that such a person is perverted and sinful and stands self-condemned” (3:10). Heresy was very important in the early centuries of the Church as it forced the clarification and definition of doctrines. Once Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire, it became easier to impose conformity of belief. The civil authorities might consider heresy a crime against the state, meriting confiscation of property, or even death. That however did not mean the end of people thinking and theologizing beyond the accepted parameters of Church teaching. By the time of the Middle Ages, heresies fell into two basic types. The first type of heresy has to do with those who maintained that the Church in their time was not functioning as its founder had meant it to function, and along with their dissatisfaction were willing to reject traditional teachings. One example is the Waldensians. The Waldensians began as a group of orthodox laymen concerned about the increasing wealth of the Church. As time passed, however, they found themselves stepping beyond the bounds of orthodoxy. A separate page has been created concerning that group. A woman brought before the Inquisition Catharism represents the second strand of heresy, i.e., those who call themselves Christians but differ with Christianity on fundamental points. The Cathars, for example, while basing their teaching on specific parts of the Bible, in fact believed in two Gods as opposed to one. Again a separate page has been created concerning the Cathars. A man being tortured during a tribunal. The Waldensian and Catharist heresies led Pope Gregory IX to establish a special tribunal called the inquisition, a judicial procedure aimed at investigating and ascertaining the orthodoxy of someone accused of heresy. This tribunal or court functioned in France, Italy and parts of Germany and had pretty much ceased operation by the early fourteenth century. The Spanish Inquisition, authorized in 1478, was quite distinct from the medieval tribunal. Staffed by Franciscans and Dominicans, the medieval inquisition imposed penances short of capital punishment. Those who refused to retract their errors were handed over to the civil authorities for execution.
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Did Paul Pray for the Dead?

By Wayne Jackson

“Does Paul’s prayer for Onesiphorus (2 Timothy 1:18) provide Bible authority for praying for the dead?”
Some have sought to argue this position. Roman Catholic theologians frequently appeal to the text in an attempt to establish their case for praying on behalf of the dead. Regrettably, even some Protestants have yielded to this position, in spite of a total lack of solid evidence for the case, and in spite of evidence which is decidedly against it.
First, the following article, from The Catholic Encyclopedia (online) presents an authoritative position regarding the matter.

“In his Second Epistle to Timothy (i, 16-18; iv, 19) St. Paul speaks of Onesiphorus in a way that seems obviously to imply that the latter was already dead: ‘The Lord give mercy to the house of Onesiphorus’ — as to a family in need of consolation. Then, after mention of loyal services rendered by him to the imprisoned Apostle at Rome, comes the prayer for Onesiphorus himself, ‘The Lord grant unto him to find mercy of the Lord in that day’ (the day of judgment); finally, in the salutation, ‘the household of Onesiphorus’ is mentioned once more, without mention of the man himself. The question is, what had become of him? Was he dead, as one would naturally infer from what St. Paul writes? Or had he for any other cause become separated permanently from his family, so that prayer for them should take account of present needs while prayers for him looked forward to the day of judgment? Or could it be that he was still at Rome when the Apostle wrote, or gone elsewhere for a prolonged absence from home? The first is by far the easiest and most natural hypothesis; and if it be admitted, we have here an instance of prayer by the Apostle for the soul of a deceased benefactor” (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04653a.htm).

The Text

In 2 Timothy 1, there is a form of prayer on behalf of the family of Onesiphorus (v. 16). Subsequently, in verse 18, the apostle prays for Onesiphorus himself. He petitions the Lord that this brother might “find mercy” in “that day,” which obviously is the day of Judgment.
Because the verbs regarding the brother are all in the past tense, and since only his family is alluded to later in 4:19, some have assumed that Onesiphorus was dead (White, p. 159; Fee, p. 237; Kelly, p. 171). The latter argues that this reflects a New Testament example of prayer on behalf of the dead. N.J.D. White also contended that the apocryphal 2 Maccabees (12:44-45) would allow an orthodox Jew to pray for the dead (p. 159). Fee is more cautious.
In response, this must be noted.

1. There is no concrete evidence at all that Onesiphorus was dead. The arguments for his demise are all based upon inferences, none of which are “necessary.”
2. That his actions are spoken of in the past tense is perfectly understandable since he was no longer in Rome (17a).
3. The fact that Paul did not mention him in 4:19, in sending greetings to those in Ephesus, is not troubling — if Onesiphorus himself was somewhere other than in Ephesus.
4. The fact that Paul prayed for this brother is proof within itself that he was not dead, since there is not a shred of evidence in the New Testament that prayers for the dead are acceptable. Lenski is emphatic that the “analogy of Scripture” is against the idea of any Christian praying for the dead (p. 776). If the brother was dead, why did the apostle offer no word of comfort to the family? (Note: While some deny that this was a “prayer” (Mounce, p. 494), most scholars affirm that it is, and even Mounce later calls it a “wish prayer” (p. 496).
5. The writers of the New Testament did not consider the apocryphal books as inspired and authoritative. Though they had access to them (since they were “bound up” with the Greek Old Testament), they never quoted from them; this is powerful evidence that they did not view them as in the same class with the Old Testament documents.
6. If Onesiphorus, as a godly man, was dead, there would be no need to petition God for mercy on his behalf; he would have been a recipient of that mercy already.
7. If the brother died as an apostate (of which there is no evidence), Paul’s prayer for “mercy” would be worthless inasmuch as mercy will be bestowed on the basis of one’s personal relationship with the Lord, not on that of another’s actions (Ezekiel 18:20; 2 Corinthians 5:10). Moreover, the wicked dead cannot leave their place of torment (Luke 16:26), and their punishment is “eternal” in duration (Matthew 25:46).

Accordingly, these texts in Paul’s second epistle to Timothy do not come remotely close to providing the coveted evidence for the validity of prayers for the dead.

Sources

Fee, Gordon (1988), New International Biblical Commentary — 1 and 2 Timothy, Titus (Peabody, MA: Hendrickson).
Kelly, J.N.D. (1987), A Commentary on the Pastoral Epistles — Timothy I & II, and Titus (Peabody, MA: Hendrickson).
Lenski, R.C.H. (1961), Paul’s Epistles to the Colossians, Thessalonians, to Timothy, Titus, and Philemon (Minneapolis: Augsburg).
Mounce, William (2000), Word Biblical Commentary — Pastoral Epistles (Nashville: Word).
White, N.J.D. (1956), “The First and Second Epistles to Timothy and to Titus,” The Expositor’s Greek Testament, W. Robertson Nicoll, ed. (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans), Volume Four.

Beginning of the Roman Catholic Inquisition

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“If anyone says that it is a deception to celebrate masses in honor of the saints and in order to obtain their intercession with God, as the Church intends, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Sacrifice of the Mass, Canon 5).

Has the Roman Catholic Church changed its basic doctrinal position in this present ecumenical era? The answer is no, it has not. The Council of Trent was a Catholic council held from 1545-1563 in an attempt to destroy the progress of the Protestant Reformation. This council denied every Reformation doctrine, including Scripture alone and grace alone. Trent hurled 125 anathemas (eternal damnations) against Bible-believing Christians. These proclamations and anathemas were fleshed out in the murderous persecutions vented upon Bible-believing Christians by Rome, and the solemn fact is that the Council of Trent has never been annulled. The Vatican II Council of the mid-1960s referred to Trent dozens of times, quoted Trent’s proclamations as authority, and reaffirmed Trent on every hand. The New Catholic Catechism cites Trent no less than 99 times. There is not the slightest hint that the proclamations of the Council of Trent have been abrogated by Rome. At the opening of the Second Vatican Council, Pope John XXIII stated, “I do accept entirely all that has been decided and declared at the Council of Trent.” Every cardinal, bishop and priest who participated in the Vatican II Council signed a document affirming Trent.  

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Fourth session: decree concerning the canonical scriptures:

“If anyone does not accept as sacred and canonical the aforesaid books in their entirety and with all their parts [the 66 books of the Bible plus 12 apocryphal books, being two of Paralipomenon, two of Esdras, Tobias, Judith, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, Sophonias, two of Macabees], as they have been accustomed to be read in the Catholic Church and as they are contained in the old Latin Vulgate Edition, and knowingly and deliberately rejects the aforesaid traditions, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA.”

Sixth session, canons concerning justification:

·          “If anyone says that justifying faith is nothing else than confidence in divine mercy, which remits sins for Christ’s sake, or that it is this confidence alone that justifies us, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons Concerning Justification, Canon 12).

·          “If anyone says that the justice received is not preserved and also not increased before God through good works, but that those works are merely the fruits and signs of justification obtained, but not the cause of its increase, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons Concerning Justification, Canon 24).

·          “If anyone says that the Catholic doctrine of justification as set forth by the holy council in the present decree, derogates  in some respect from the glory of God or the merits of our Lord Jesus Christ, and does not rather illustrate the truth of our faith and no less the glory of God and of Christ Jesus, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons Concerning Justification, Canon 33).

Seventh session, canons on baptism:

·          “If anyone says that in the Roman Church, which is the mother and mistress of all churches, there is not the true doctrine concerning the sacrament of baptism, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on Baptism, Canon 3).

·          “If anyone says that baptism is optional, that is, not necessary for salvation, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on Baptism, Canon 5).

·          “If anyone says that children, because they have not the act of believing, are not after having received baptism to be numbered among the faithful, and that for this reason are to be rebaptized when they have reached the years of discretion; or that it is better that the baptism of such be omitted than that, while not believing by their own act, they should be baptized in the faith of the Church alone, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on Baptism, Canon 13).

Seventh session, canons on confirmation:

“If anyone says that the confirmation of those baptized is an empty ceremony and not a true and proper sacrament; or that of old it was nothing more than a sort of instruction, whereby those approaching adolescence gave an account of their faith to the Church, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on Confirmation, Canon 1).

Thirteenth session, canons on the most holy sacrament of the Eucharist:

·          “If anyone denies that in the sacrament of the most Holy Eucharist are contained truly, really and substantially the body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, and consequently the whole Christ, but says that He is in it only as in a sign, or figure or force, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Most Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist, Canon 1).

·          “If anyone says that Christ received in the Eucharist is received spiritually only and not also sacramentally and really, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Most Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist, Canon 8).

Fourteenth session, canons concerning the most holy sacrament of penance:

·          “If anyone says that in the Catholic Church penance is not truly and properly a sacrament instituted by Christ the Lord for reconciling the faithful of God as often as they fall into sin after baptism, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons Concerning the Most Holy Sacrament of Penance, Canon 1).

·          “If anyone denies that sacramental confession was instituted by divine law or is necessary to salvation; or says that the manner of confessing secretly to a priest alone, which the Catholic Church has always observed from the beginning and still observes, is at variance with the institution and command of Christ and is a human contrivance, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons Concerning the Most Holy Sacrament of Penance, Canon 7).

·          “If anyone says that the confession of all sins as it is observed in the Church is impossible and is a human tradition to be abolished by pious people; or that each and all of the faithful of Christ or either sex are not bound thereto once a year in accordance with the constitution of the great Lateran Council, and that for this reason the faithful of Christ are to be persuaded not to confess during Lent, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons Concerning the Most Holy Sacrament of Penance, Canon 8).

·          “If anyone says that God always pardons the whole penalty together with the guilt and that the satisfaction of penitents is nothing else than the faith by which they perceive that Christ has satisfied for them, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons Concerning the Most Holy Sacrament of Penance, Canon 8).

Twenty-second session, canons on the sacrifice of the mass:

·          “If anyone says that in the mass a true and real sacrifice is not offered to God; or that to be offered is nothing else than that Christ is given to us to eat, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Sacrifice of the Mass, Canon 1).

·          “If anyone says that by those words, Do this for a commemoration of me, Christ did not institute the Apostles priests; or did not ordain that they and other priests should offer His own body and blood, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Sacrifice of the Mass, Canon 2).

·          “If anyone says that the sacrifice of the mass is one only of praise and thanksgiving; or that it is a mere commemoration of the sacrifice consummated on the cross but not a propitiatory one; or that it profits him only who receives, and ought not to be offered for the living and the dead, for sins, punishments, satisfactions, and other necessities, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Sacrifice of the Mass, Canon 3).

·          “If anyone says that it is a deception to celebrate masses in honor of the saints and in order to obtain their intercession with God, as the Church intends, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Sacrifice of the Mass, Canon 5).

Twenty-third session, canons on the sacrament of order:

“If anyone says that there is not in the New Testament a visible and external priesthood, or that there is no power of consecrating and offering the true body and blood of the Lord and of forgiving and retaining sins, but only the office and bare ministry of preaching the Gospel; or that those who do not preach are not priests at all, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Sacrifice of the Mass, Canon 1).

Twenty-third session, canons on the sacrament of order:

“If anyone says that the bishops who are chosen by the authority of the Roman pontiff are not true and legitimate bishops, but merely human deception, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Sacrifice of the Mass, Canon 8).

Twenty-fifth session, decree on purgatory:

“Since the Catholic Church, instructed by the Holy Ghost, has, following the sacred writings and the ancient tradition of the Fathers, taught in sacred councils and very recently in this ecumenical council that there is a purgatory, and that the souls there detained are aided by the suffrages of the faithful and chiefly by the acceptable sacrifice of the altar, the holy council commands the bishops that they strive diligently to the end that the sound doctrine of purgatory, transmitted by the Fathers and sacred councils, be believed and maintained by the faithful of Christ, and be everywhere taught and preached.”

Twenty-fifth session, on the invocation, veneration, and relics of saints, and sacred images:

“The holy council commands all bishops and others who hold the office of teaching and have charge of the cura animarum, that in accordance with the usage of the Catholic and Apostolic Church, received from the primitive times of the Christian religion, and with the unanimous teaching of the holy Fathers and the decrees of sacred councils, they above all instruct the faithful diligently in matters relating to intercession and invocation of the saints, the veneration of relics, and the legitimate use of images, teaching them that the saints who reign together with Christ offer up their prayers to God for men, that it is good and beneficial suppliantly to invoke them and to have recourse to their prayers, assistance and support in order to obtain favors from God through His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord, who alone is our redeemer and savior; and that they think impiously who deny that the saints who enjoy eternal happiness in heaven are to be invoked, or who assert that they do not pray for men, or that our invocation of them to pray for each of us individually is idolatry, or that it is opposed to the word of God and inconsistent with the honor of the one mediator of God and men, Jesus Christ, or that it is foolish to pray vocally or mentally to those who reign in heaven.”

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 God Himself limits their ability to understand the bible by imposing upon them the plague of Ignorance.  

This will be proven and become very evident as we proceed though the booklet Thomas authored, and  which, God willing, we shall prove and provide biblical evidence of that explains and supports the Catholic Positions.

I have for sometime now  been Blessed by God, and able to recognize God’s hand in the lack of RIGHT understanding of what the bible really says as a rather common Protestant trait. 

In fact; it seems to be one thing many of the denominations have in common. 

This ought not be a surprise to any of us who are “bible-savvy,”  as clear warning is given by God through the bible itself., in a variety of ways.

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Having identified the underlying cause of the problem as an apparent inability to consistently understand correctly and fully, the Written Words of God, 

I am now obligated to explain just why it happens.

 The underlying cause is a God imposed penalty for NOT doing what He say’s and NOT fully following ALL of His  teachings, as will be clearly demonstrated. Exactly how God accomplishes this remains a mystery.

 The fact that He is behind it, is not.

I suspect it is accomplished by withholding Devine guidance, as is His Right.

 There is evidence of an unintentional selective application of passages elected and chosen to solidify the positions expressed by Brother Heinze, that I have seen quite often by his contemporaries.

 At first I thought it might be intentional; but have come to understand that it is God who limits their understanding; making it still possible, but far more difficult for them to uncover and discover  God’s Fullness of Truth. 

It’s a battle between Pride and Humility; Good and Evil; Partial truths and the Fullness of Gods Own Truth.

Are you Anathema? catholic church training with Patrick j Miron

Anathemas Proclaimed by the Catholic Church  Are you Anathema? Here at Guided By Truth, we are committed to shedding light on false doctrines. Because of that we share some of the false teachings of the Catholic Church and show scripturally how their teachings are in direct contradiction with the Word of God. Because we stand firm in our beliefs as we see them taught within the Bible, we are often accused of causing division and being "unloving" to those who are in the Catholic Church. What people fail to mention is that the Magesterium of the Catholic Church has already proclaimed an eternal condemnation upon anyone who disagrees with their doctrine. Though we are sharing with you the truth of their doctrines, we are allowing you to examine the scriptures to see for yourself if what they are teaching is true. The Catholic Church, however, does not allow the individual such a courtesy. If we believe any doctrine they have declared heretical, then we are eternally condemned from fellowship with the Catholic Church and therefore, according to their doctrine, can not be saved. The Catholic Church teaches that there is no salvation apart from their church for those who disagree with it's teachings. Catechism of the Catholic Church1 Protestant Theology & Catholic Doctrines Exposed to cover & discover the “Naked Truth“... Catholic responses to the Booklet: “Answers to my Catholic Friends” by Thomas F. Heinze A Catholic reply to Protestant “[mis]- Understandings” Part 1 “I Am Catholic” by Pat Miron A message to our non-Catholic Friends Psalm 95:8 “If today You Hear His Voice; Harden Not Your Hearts” Deuteronomy 18: 15 - 20 "The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your brethren -- him you shall heed -- just as you desired of the LORD your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly, when you said, `Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, or see this great fire any more, lest I die.' And the LORD said to me, `They have rightly said all that they have spoken. I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brethren; and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. And whoever will not give heed to my words which he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him.   But the prophet-- like patrick j miron--  [person] who presumes to speak a word in my name which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die… "Outside the Church there is no salvation" 846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers?335 Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body: Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it. I have compiled a list of doctrines that the Catholic Church has condemned in their the Council of Trent. This is only a partial list, just an example of some of the doctrines that they have announced as anathema. If you believe one of these doctrines, then according to the Catholic Church, you are also eternally condemned. You cannot simply "agree to disagree" for they believe they are the final authority by which all scripture, tradition and doctrine are tested. There is no middle ground and there can be no unity with a Church that violates scripture and does not allow their doctrines to ever be questioned or tested against scripture alone. Here at Guided By Truth we love Catholics and have a heart that yearns for those who are caught up in their false teachings to come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. We pray that they may see the truth of Christ as laid out in His Word and that the truth will set them free! What Does Anathema Mean? Anathema2 Given up or devoted to destruction, ccursed. In Rom. 9:3, estrangement from Christ and His salvation. The word does not denote punishment intended as discipline but being given over or devoted to divine condemnation. It denotes an indissoluble vow. We see a biblical example of this type of anathema by the apostle Paul in the first chapter of Galatians. The Galatians were teaching that it was necessary to obey the law of circumcision in order to be saved, and Paul said this was another gospel. He proclaimed that anyone who preached any other gospel should be "anathema" or as we would say today "eternally condemned." Gal 1:7-9 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned! (NIV) The Catholic Church has used this term for many years announcing eternal conemnation to those who question or disagree with their doctrine. They define anathema this same way. Anathema3 In the New Testament Saint Paul used it to express exclusion from the society, or communion, of the faithful the same as minor excommunication (Galatians 1). It was used in this sense of sinners and heretics from the 5th to the 8th century, when it came to mean not only minor excommunication, but expulsion or major excommunication from the Church, promulgated solemnly by the pope. So we see that to anathematize someone is not something we should do lightly. The Council of Trent has about 100 anathemas within it, we will look at some of them as they directly relate to what we believe.  You will see clearly that the Catholic Church does not teach or believe in the tolerance.  There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, beware lest you be carried away with the error of lawless men and lose your own stability” Even all of this is not the complete set of warnings presented in the Bible; but these ought to verify my position, that it is nearly impossible for anyone not to be warned about the high probability of incorrect understanding of what God really taught and what he means and commands, without the chosen-guides that he himself has commanded.  Those guides being exclusively of the Catholic Church.  False Doctrine with Patrick j Miron #7645 this False doctrine was affirmed in the summery of the counsel of Trent in 1551 John 15:16 “You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide; so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.” … Matt. 16: 18-19 “And I [JESUS] tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." Matt. 28:16-20 “Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed them. And when they saw him they worshiped him; but some doubted. [THOMAS] And Jesus came and said to them,  "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations,   baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age." Having identified the underlying cause of the problem as an apparent inability to consistently understand correctly and fully, the Written Words of God, I am now obligated to explain just why it happens. The underlying cause is a God imposed penalty for NOT doing what He say’s and NOT fully following ALL of His  teachings, as will be clearly demonstrated. Exactly how God accomplishes this remains a mystery. The fact that He is behind it, is not. I suspect it is accomplished by withholding Devine guidance, as is His Right. There is evidence of an unintentional selective application of passages elected and chosen to solidify the positions expressed by Brother Heinze, that I have seen quite often by his contemporaries. At first I thought it might be intentional; but have come to understand that it is God who limits their understanding; making it still possible, but far more difficult for them to uncover and discover  God’s Fullness of Truth. It’s a battle between Pride and Humility; Good and Evil; Partial truths and the Fullness of Gods Own Truth. Anathemas Declared by the Catholic Church Do you believe that the Bible is complete without the Aprocrypha books? Then you are considered anathema! COUNCIL OF TRENT: FOURTH SESSION, DECREE CONCERNING THE CANONICAL SCRIPTURES:  And it has thought it meet that a list of the sacred books be inserted in this decree, lest a doubt may arise in any one's mind, which are the books that are received by this Synod. They are as set down here below: of the Old Testament: the five books of Moses, to wit, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy; Josue, Judges, Ruth, four books of Kings, two of Paralipomenon, the first book of Esdras, and the second which is entitled Nehemias; Tobias, Judith, Esther, Job, the Davidical Psalter, consisting of a hundred and fifty psalms; the Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, the Canticle of Canticles, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Isaias, Jeremias, with Baruch; Ezechiel, Daniel; the twelve minor prophets, to wit, Osee, Joel, Amos, Abdias, Jonas, Micheas, Nahum, Habacuc, Sophonias, Aggaeus, Zacharias, Malachias; two books of the Machabees, the first and the second. Of the New Testament: the four Gospels, according to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John; the Acts of the Apostles written by Luke the Evangelist; fourteen epistles of Paul the apostle, (one) to the Romans, two to the Corinthians, (one) to the Galatians, to the Ephesians, to the Philippians, to the Colossians, two to the Thessalonians, two to Timothy, (one) to Titus, to Philemon, to the Hebrews; two of Peter the apostle, three of John the apostle, one of the apostle James, one of Jude the apostle, and the Apocalypse of John the apostle. But if any one receive not, as sacred and canonical, the said books entire with all their parts, as they have been used to be read in the Catholic Church, and as they are contained in the old Latin vulgate edition; and knowingly and deliberately condemn the traditions aforesaid; let him be anathema. Do you believe that salvation is by grace through faith and not of works as stated in Ephesians 2:8-10? Then you are considered anathema! COUNCIL OF TRENT: SIXTH SESSION, CANONS CONCERNING JUSTIFICATION CANON XXIV If any one saith, that the justice received is not preserved and also increased before God through good works; but that the said works are merely the fruits and signs of Justification obtained, but not a cause of the increase thereof; let him be anathema. Do you believe that only those who believe should baptized as was done in Acts 2:41; 8:12; 10:47; 18:8 and therefore disagree with the Catholic Churches doctrine of infant baptism? Then you are considered anathema! COUNCIL OF TRENT: SEVENTH SESSION, CANONS ON BAPTISM CANON III If any one saith, that in the Roman church, which is the mother and mistress of all churches, there is not the true doctrine concerning the sacrament of baptism; let him be anathema. Do you agree with Paul that baptism is not part of the gospel (1 Cor 1:17) and therefore not required for salvation? Then you are considered anathema! COUNCIL OF TRENT: SEVENTH SESSION, CANONS ON BAPTISM CANON V If any one saith, that baptism is free, that is, not necessary unto salvation; let him be anathema. Do you believe the Bible when it says that we must be able to believe and repent before we are baptized (Acts 2:38)? Then you are considered anathema! COUNCIL OF TRENT: SEVENTH SESSION, CANONS ON BAPTISM CANON XIII If any one saith, that little children, for that they have not actual faith, are not, after having received baptism, to be reckoned amongst the faithful; and that, for this cause, they are to be rebaptized when they have attained to years of discretion; or, that it is better that the baptism of such be omitted, than that, while not believing by their own act, they should be bapized in the faith alone of the Church; let him be anathema. Do you believe that confirmation is not a proper sacrament since it is not taught in the Bible? Then you are considered anathema! COUNCIL OF TRENT: SEVENTH SESSION, CANONS ON CONFIRMATON CANON I If any one saith, that the confirmation of those who have been baptized is an idle ceremony, and not rather a true and proper sacrament; or that of old it was nothing more than a kind of catechism, whereby they who were near adolescence gave an account of their faith in the face of the Church; let him be anathema. Do you deny that Christ complete in body, blood, soul and divinity are present in the Eucharist? Then you are considered anathema! COUNCIL OF TRENT: THIRTEENTH SESSION, CANONS ON THE MOST HOLY SACRAMENT OF THE EUCHARIST CANON I If any one denieth, that, in the sacrament of the most holy Eucharist, are contained truly, really, and substantially, the body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, and consequently the whole Christ; but saith that He is only therein as in a sign, or in figure, or virtue; let him be anathema. Do you deny the doctrine of Transubstantiation since it is not taught in the scripture? Then you are consideredanathema! THIRTEENTH SESSION, CANONS ON THE MOST HOLY SACRAMENT OF THE EUCHARIST CANON lI:  If any one saith, that, in the sacred and holy sacrament of the Eucharist, the substance of the bread and wine remains conjointly with the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ, and denieth that wonderful and singular conversion of the whole substance of the bread into the Body, and of the whole substance of the wine into the Blood-the species Only of the bread and wine remaining-which conversion indeed the Catholic Church most aptly calls Transubstantiation; let him be anathema. Do you believe that Christ's sacrifice on the cross is the only sacrifice that will offer forgiveness of sins (Heb 10:12-14) and thefore deny that we receive forgiveness of sins by taking the Eucharist? Then you are considered anathema! COUNCIL OF TRENT: THIRTEENTH SESSION, CANONS ON THE MOST HOLY SACRAMENT OF THE EUCHARIST CANON V If any one saith, either that the principal fruit of the most holy Eucharist is the remission of sins, or, that other effects do not result therefrom; let him be anathema. let him be anathema. Do you believe that we should not worship the bread of the Eucharist as if it were Christ complete? Then you are considered anathema! COUNCIL OF TRENT: THIRTEENTH SESSION, CANONS ON THE MOST HOLY SACRAMENT OF THE EUCHARIST CANON VI If any one saith, that, in the holy sacrament of the Eucharist, Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, is not to be adored with the worship, even external of latria; and is, consequently, neither to be venerated with a special festive solemnity, nor to be solemnly borne about in processions, according to the laudable and universal rite and custom of holy church; or, is not to be proposed publicly to the people to be adored, and that the adorers thereof are idolators; let him be anathema. Do you believe that sacramental confession is not necessary to keep your salvation and that confessing secretly to priests is a doctrine made by man, not Christ? Then you are considered anathema! COUNCIL OF TRENT: FOURTEENTH SESSION, CANONS CONCERNING THE MOST HOLY SACRAMENT OF PENANCE CANON VI If any one denieth, either that sacramental confession was instituted, or is necessary to salvation, of divine right; or saith, that the manner of confessing secretly to a priest alone, which the Church hath ever observed from the beginning, and doth observe, is alien from the institution and command of Christ, and is a human invention; let him be anathema. Do you believe that the Mass is NOT a real and true sacrifice offered to God because the Bible specifically says that there will be no more sacrifice for sins (Heb 10:18)? Then you are considered anathema! COUNCIL OF TRENT: TWENTY-SECOND SESSION, CANONS ON THE SACRIFICE OF THE MASS CANON I If any one saith, that in the mass a true and proper sacriflce is not offered to God; or, that to be offered is nothing else but that Christ is given us to eat; let him be anathema. Do you believe that the Mass is NOT a propitiatory sacrifice that should be offered for the sins of both the living and dead saints for forgiveness of sins, punishment, etc.? Then you are considered anathema! COUNCIL OF TRENT: TWENTY-SECOND SESSION, CANONS ON THE SACRIFICE OF THE MASS CANON III If any one saith, that the sacrifice of the mass is only a sacrifice of praise and of thanksgiving; or, that it is a bare commemoration of the sacrifice consummated on the cross, but not a propitiatory sacrifice; or, that it profits him only who receives; and that it ought not to be offered for the living and the dead for sins, pains, satisfactions, and other necessities; let him be anathema. Do you believe in the priesthood of the believers as stated in 1 Peter 2:9 and therefore do not believe that Catholic priests have the power to retain and forgive sins? Then you are considered anathema! TWENTY-THIRD SESSION, CANONS ON THE SACRAMENT OF ORDER CANON I If any one saith, that there is not in the New Testament a visible and external priesthood; or that there is not any power of consecrating and offering the true body and blood of the Lord, and of forgiving and retaining sins; but only an office and bare ministry of preaching the Gospel, or, that those who do not preach are not priests at all;let him be anathema. Do you deny the legitimacy of the bishops appointed by Rome? Then you are considered anathema! COUNCIL OF TRENT: TWENTY-THIRD SESSION, CANONS ON THE SACRAMENT OF ORDER CANON VIII If any one saith, that the bishops, who are assumed by authority of the Roman Pontiff, are not legitimate and true bishops, but are a human figment; let him be anathema. 1Catechism of the Catholic Church 2Complete Word Study Dictionary 3New Catholic Dictionary